Papa test i vakcinacija

sara_d · Postano: pet pro 14, 2007 6:08 am Naslov: Papa test i vakcinacija

Moram da idem na papa, a kako mi je mrskoooo. Sramota me reci, to ce mi biti prvi papa test.
Od 12-26 besplatne vakcine za sprecavanje raka (cervical cancer), a iznad 26 se placa.
E ja sam u ovoj skupini koja placa.
I citavo vrijeme razmisljam da ili ne( ne zbog novca)????
Sta vi mislite? :smt017

Inna · Postano: pet pro 14, 2007 10:55 pm Naslov:

ja bi isla

sara_d · Postano: sub pro 15, 2007 1:09 am Naslov:

Ma ja jos razmisljam :smt017

Alana · Postano: ned pro 16, 2007 1:35 am Naslov:

Lana ja bi na papu obavezno. To ti nije uopce tako strasno.
Za vakcinu, neznam, razgovaraj s ginekologom.
Ta vakcina je nesto dosta novo, ako se ne varam, jel tako. Daju ju i ovdje. Ali mi se cini da sam nedavno cula nesto lose u vezi te vakcine (zato sam rekla da razgovaras s ginom), ali ubij me sada neznam sta sam cula, neznam sta se desilo.
Ja bi ju isto primila, ali moram prvo provjeriti sta je to bilo s tom vakcinom. Ako nije nista strasno i ja cu ju vjerovatno traziti kada budem isla kod moje gin.
E, hebiga, nadam se da te sada nisam s ovim zbunila. Kad pricam, a neznam sta pricam.
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Alana · Postano: ned pro 16, 2007 1:36 am Naslov:

Idem trazit na Google, pa ti javim.
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Alana · Postano: ned pro 16, 2007 2:01 am Naslov:

Lana, evo ovo sam nasla. Ukratko da ti napisem, a ako ti se da citaj clanak ispod, koji sam skinula s neta.
U biti je OK za nas "starije" zemske da to primimo.
Bilo je nekih problema sa jako mladim curama koje su ju primile (i vakcina nije dovoljno testirana za te mlade curke, od 9 do 15 godina).
Znaci za nas "stare koke" je OK i nema problema da ju primimo.

Prema tome ja bih ti rekla odi uradi papu i primi vakcinu, sto cu i ja sama najvjerovatnije uraditi.
Sretno i javi nam sta si odlucila :smt001

for immediate release
June 27, 2006

MERCK'S GARDASIL VACCINE NOT PROVEN SAFE FOR LITTLE GIRLS
National Vaccine Information Center Criticizes
FDA for Fast Tracking Licensure

Washington, D.C. - The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is calling on the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to just say "no" on June 29 to recommending "universal use" of Merck's Gardasil vaccine in all pre-adolescent girls. NVIC maintains that Merck's clinical trials did not prove the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine designed to prevent cervical cancer and genital warts is safe to give to young girls.

"Merck and the FDA have not been completely honest with the people about the pre-licensure clinical trials," said NVIC president Barbara Loe Fisher. "Merck's pre and post-licensure marketing strategy has positioned mass use of this vaccine by pre-teens as a morality play in order to avoid talking about the flawed science they used to get it licensed. This is not just about teenagers having sex, it is also about whether Gardasil has been proven safe and effective for little girls."

The FDA allowed Merck to use a potentially reactive aluminum containing placebo as a control for most trial participants, rather than a non-reactive saline solution placebo.[1] A reactive placebo can artificially increase the appearance of safety of an experimental drug or vaccine in a clinical trial. Gardasil contains 225 mcg of aluminum and, although aluminum adjuvants have been used in vaccines for decades, they were never tested for safety in clinical trials. Merck and the FDA did not disclose how much aluminum was in the placebo.[2]

Animal and human studies have shown that aluminum can cause nerve cell death [3] and that vaccine aluminum adjuvants can allow aluminum to enter the brain, [4 5] as well as cause inflammation at the injection site leading to chronic joint and muscle pain and fatigue. [6 7] Nearly 90 percent of Gardasil recipients and 85 percent of aluminum placebo recipients followed-up for safety reported one or more adverse events within 15 days of vaccination, particularly at the injection site.[8] Pain and swelling at injection site occurred in approximately 83 percent of Gardasil and 73 percent of aluminum placebo recipients. About 60 percent of those who got Gardasil or the aluminum placebo had systemic adverse events including headache, fever, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, diarrhea, myalgia. [9 10] Gardasil recipients had more serious adverse events such as headache, gastroenteritis, appendicitis, pelvic inflammatory disease, asthma, bronchospasm and arthritis.

"Merck and the FDA do not reveal in public documents exactly how many 9 to 15 year old girls were in the clinical trials, how many of them received hepatitis B vaccine and Gardasil simultaneously, and how many of them had serious adverse events after being injected with Gardasil or the aluminum placebo. For example, if there were less than 1,000 little girls actually injected with three doses of Gardasil, it is important to know how many had serious adverse events and how long they were followed for chronic health problems, such as juvenile arthritis."

According to the Merck product manufacturer insert, there was 1 case of juvenile arthritis, 2 cases of rheumatoid arthritis, 5 cases of arthritis, and 1 case of reactive arthritis out of 11,813 Gardasil recipients plus 1 case of lupus and 2 cases of arthritis out of 9,701 participants primarily receiving an aluminum containing placebo. Clinical trial investigators dismissed most of the 102 Gardasil and placebo associated serious adverse events, including 17 deaths, that occurred in the clinical trials as unrelated.

"There is too little long term safety and efficacy data, especially in young girls, and too little labeling information on contraindications for the CDC to recommend Gardasil for universal use, which is a signal for states to mandate it," said Fisher. "Nobody at Merck, the CDC or FDA know if the injection of Gardasil into all pre-teen girls - especially simultaneously with hepatitis B vaccine - will make some of them more likely to develop arthritis or other inflammatory autoimmune and brain disorders as teenagers and adults. With cervical cancer causing about one percent of all cancer deaths in American women due to routine pap screening, it was inappropriate for the FDA to fast track Gardasil. It is way too early to direct all young girls to get three doses of a vaccine that has not been proven safe or effective in their age group."

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), founded in 1982 by parents of vaccine injured children, has been a leading critic of one-size-fits-all mass vaccination policies and the lack of basic science research into biological mechanisms and high risk factors for vaccine-induced brain and immune system dysfunction. As a member of the FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC), Barbara Loe Fisher urged trials include adequate safety data on pre-adolescent children and warned against fast tracking Gardasil at the November 28-29, 2001 VRBPAC meeting .[11]

Full 2001 FDA Transcript: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/cber01.htm#Vaccines & Related Biological

For more information go to www.NVIC.org.

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sara_d · Postano: ned pro 16, 2007 10:44 am Naslov:

Thank you zeno.
:smt007

Znam slusala sam na vijestima za te nuspojave kod mladjih djevojaka.
ja sam razmisljala i odlucila sam da idem na papa ovaj tjedan, i onda cu pitati kad mogu po vakcinu.

Kikina · Postano: ned pro 16, 2007 1:37 pm Naslov:

Papu uradi obavezno!
Ja sa u 7. mj. to obavila.

A cijepiti se necu, skepticna sam prema tim novotarijama koje na nama isprobavaju :smt017 :smt018
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Mamin frajer - 02.10.2006

sara_d · Postano: ned pro 16, 2007 9:54 pm Naslov:

I ja sam skeptik, ali pustila sam ekipu prije

da se uvjeri.

Dobrodosli u Kutak za mame i bebe!!!! "Gost"